i was really looking forward to these, unfortunately they suck .
ill be the first to admit that i don't fully understand these computer trends, but to my knowledge ATI/AMD have been getting raped for a good year by nvidia/intel
although i must add that the HD3850 is probably the best cost/performance video card on the market at about 180 dollars (same price as 8600GTS, but twice as good)
also, to my knowledge, most amd CPU's under 100 dolllars will outperform their INTEL counterparts, so i guess amd still does have the midline to low demographic....
what do some of you more knowledgeable nerds have to say?